The Ketchum study has been said to be ready for publication any month now. The sad part is that we have heard this rumor for a long time now. I personally interviewed Dr. Ketchum on my old radio show Bigfoot Busters nearly two years ago this Halloween.
The first half of the show I interviewed Dave Paulides author of the books The Hoopa Project and Tribal Bigfoot. Dave was also a contributor of bigfoot biological samples to the Ketchum DNA Project. Dave was extremely helpful to Dr. Ketchum coordinating the retrieval of bigfoot samples from other researchers across the country.
After the break halfway through the show Dr. Ketchum joined us and my first question was how she got involved in testing samples for bigfoot DNA. She said that for 15 years she had bigfoot researchers and others bring her samples to be tested for unknown animals, they brought her hair, scat and other biological material to be tested, none of it ever amounting to anything. She said even though the samples never amounted to anything she remained open minded to the possibility of finding evidence one day. Then in the spring of 2008 Dave Paulides and Josh Gates from Destination Truth submitted hair for testing. She said that back then she got so tired of dealing with these samples that she screened them to run on human markers and if they tested out fine then she knew they had something. These two samples turned out to be something special but thinking they were just like all they others she wasted most of the sample but the results made her believe there was evidence worth continuing the research. It turned out that after the Destination Truth episode aired in 2009 she began to be flooded with samples from all over the country and North America. So it was Destination Truth that actually caused the flood of bigfoot hair, blood, bone and scat samples to inundate her lab prompting her to begin this first ever wide ranging study into Bigfoot DNA. She explained how difficult it was to pull the mitochondrial DNA out of the hair shafts of Sasquatch hair and there was a raging debate with her team to what was causing this compared to other creatures she has tested. I asked her how many unknowns she has collected in the last year and she stated quite a few but she couldn’t talk about the actual results yet. She went on to state that she was doing everything by the book scientifically so that this study would stand up in court. Ketchum said this would be a peer reviewed paper which is now being written and when published is when this all will come out in the open. I asked Dr. Ketchum if the samples taken from DT look the same as the North American sample hairs and she said there very similar across continents but the DT samples did have fibers also. We had some questions come in from our chatroom concerning protecting the samples from human contamination and Dr. Ketchum stated they treated all samples like forensic testing and did all the protocols to preserve their integrity.
Next we had a caller and Adrian Erickson was on the other end of the line a big surprise to us all. He went on to say that he had a few samples being tested with Dr. Ketchum, then went on to discuss the killing of two sasquatch in Canada that he heard about. In one case the hunter thought he killed a giant hairy human of some sort and just ran off. The other case they buried it and years later they came back to try and find it and there was nothing left to recover. Adrian used this story to explain why so little evidence of these creatures bodies or bones can ever be found because animals and nature consume them so easily. Mr. Erickson also talked about the evidence he has collected over the five year period since he began. He said he had collected blood and saliva samples tested by Dr.Ketchum and video, audio and still images of the bigfoot he has taken from his five study sites across the US and Canada. Adrian also went on at length to tell our audience how hard Dr. Ketchum has worked over the past year to get this study done to a point where sleep was a luxury she seldom got much of. I asked him next if he had any tips for all the researchers out there how he was able to collect all the video evidence he has. He got his video from semi habitual sites where over time and using food the local sasquatch gained the trust of those living on the property and attained video evidence that equals or surpasses Patterson/Gimlin. Then Tim had another question from our chatroom and he asked Dr. Ketchum if she believes Bigfoot does exist ? She happily said without hesitation “Yes without question I can answer that without any problems, you’ll just have to wait for the details.” After a question from a caller Scott Carpenter on handiling and preserving DNA in the field Dr. Ketchum said “If you have samples you must get them in soon time is running out”
My next question to Dr. Ketchum is very telling in that this is the two year anniversary of this interview coming up. I ask her “Dr. Ketchum is there anything that can keep this DNA evidence from ever coming out” She answered “I certainly hope not, I have tried to overkill to satisfy peer review and get passed. The peer review will happen unless we get biased people that refuse to pass it for selfish reasons, or if we have some conspiracy theory going that it’s prevented. We have done peer review papers before it’s no big deal, The Science will pass it’s just getting pass someone with a preconceived notion” ” We have done more then you need to pass peer review.” If it doesn’t pass quickly the first time through we will submit to another journal” then she said “you know everyone gets all excited about bigfoot it’s just another organism you write it up like you do anything else and submit it” then I said “you have to do more then most DNA peer review papers” We have to because of the nature of the beast, pardon the pun”. We had another question from the chatroom and Polypodium asked her about the release date and if government officials have contacted her. Her answer will have much meaning today I will paraphrase her remarks. She said some folks have voiced concerns about the peer review process in the USA, that’s why we have many copies and we will submit INTERNATIONALLY ! I emphasis this now because of the Oxford Study in England and their November release date. I finish up this interview with Dr. Ketchum with this last question Do you have idea when this study may be released. She said “Probably sometime in the spring, It’s going to depend on the peer review,” Were very close, were writing right now and well on our way with it” The deed is done were still adding samples here and there.” This interview is not complete but the most important parts were included. This took place October 31 2010. What Happened ?
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